Monday, November 26, 2012
This is my respond to ganadevananda
It takes a soul to know a soul. You want proof means you don’t know. You are not up to his level yet. When you are capable to do it then you know. You don’t have to say so much to prove you don’t know. He needs to prove you nothing. There is no need. When he can, he can. Give you an example, you speak English, He speaks English. When you meet, you talk together in English. Later, you say to him “You have to prove to me you speak English.” “What?”
You have your spiritual level and he has his. You have your value base on your level and he has his base on his level. You can say whatever you like to say. It shows where you are. You can do whatever you like to do. It shows who you are. He ends here with his namaskar to you, Ganadevananda. There is no need to say more. Treasure your time and do more spiritual practice is our duty. Behead other’s head to show you are higher is not a monk should do. You are not God. Stop judge people. That’s his sincere advice to you.
ganesha
Sour grapes makes me laugh. He is used to jealous talk all these years.
Friday, November 23, 2012
Revenge from a Ranchi's Monk
Dear all, namaskar.
In this waning stage of Kali Yuga there is no lack of self-proclaimed Baba’s channelers, ready to take the weaker devotees for a ride and to exploit, for their own selfish ends, the need for spirituality that if fast growing in society.
They try to impress and overcome weaker minds with their promises to become the middleman/woman between them and Baba, or to heal their ailments with their occult powers, exploiting in fact the psychic fragility proper of anyone suffering from spiritual confusion or severe illnesses. And the only proof they can put forward is their telepathic conversations with Baba. Indeed a convenient route isn’t it, because how could anyone verify and disprove such statements?
Unfortunately for them, what they imagine to be Baba’s endorsement of their beliefs and actions neither reflect Baba’s methodology nor His spirit, since He is on the record categorically forbidding the use of occult powers and strongly encouraging working ‘together’ to fight the adharmic influences so predominant in Kali Yuga.
Discarding His relentless lifetime effort to build up the Ananda Marga organization and its branches, which were all directly created and guided by Him through a disciplined control structure, to go on egotistic trips to name and fame is hardly credible by any spiritual standards, especially those embodied and promoted by Baba.
These channelers claim that Baba gave them supernatural powers… but He forgot to tell anyone else about it and to give them any organizational duty to go along with such alleged capacity, so they go about their lives free from having to abide by Baba’s own strict demand to move forward together no matter what.
They assume that Baba agreed with their true or even alleged use of occult powers because He didn’t scold them when they met Him ‘in person’, meetings which most probably happened along with many other devotees in Baba’s driveway or during DMC, or indeed outside His room while He was apparently busy doing something else more important inside it.
Now, beside the fact that had Baba chosen to personally scold every margii’s mistake, He wouldn’t have had much time to do anything else, couldn’t it be that such ‘VIP’s were Insignificant enough to His Mission not to waste His precious time on them?
Baba is Taraka Brahma and thus the guru of both vidya and avidya tantrics, but it doesn’t mean that He favored avidya practices, and anyone who had carefully read and understood Baba’s books would have certainly noticed that even without having received any special blessing in this regard, because Baba was very clear and unambiguous on this subject.
Dharma Samiiksa, the program created by Baba review one’s 16 points, would have been the ideal setting to verify if indeed Baba was fine with their use of occult powers, or indeed indicate in any way or form that He wanted to chose them amongst the many to carry His message. Such public endorsement would have certainly lent a critical amount of credibility to their statements, isn’t it?
Well, I wouldn’t be surprised if such ‘chosen’ ‘margiis’ purposefully avoided going through Dharma Samiiksa, perhaps claiming that they didn’t to avoid ‘giving’ Baba their samskaras—as if they had the power to stop Parama Purusa from doing anything He wanted to do—when in fact the real reason could well be that they feared He could have publicly exposed their ‘superhuman’ weaknesses, and thus spoil their secret ambitions to become the ‘chosen ones’ after His physical departure.
Claiming that Baba had had to undergo the laws of prakrti to the extent of dying because of the energy loss resulting from absorbing people’s samskaras, is reducing Him to the status of common mortal. How spiritually absurd and so far from Baba’s clearly proven omnipotent status! If this is the level of realization that occult powers bring about, I am not surprised Baba discouraged their use!
As for the publication work in Taiwan, the statement that a single ‘magic’ book is the only book that has helped margiis and Acaryas doing pracar in Taiwan is clearly preposterous and delusional.
Fortunately ‘ordinary’ margiis didn’t depend on anyone’s alleged superhuman gift and oversized ego, and they went on translating and publishing many more dozens of Baba’s books in the Chinese language, following the ‘ordinary’ route of working hard and sacrificing a lot personally to please Baba by silently serving His Mission.
It’s indeed hard work to translate and publish Baba’s books, something that is best done in teamwork, but that is surely something quite difficult to understand and contribute to for anyone who believes to be the ‘chosen one’. At least this time, politics has nothing to do with it.
In Baba,
Dada Ganadevananda
The following passage was the email i posted online. and see how ganadevananda took it himself.
Here, I was talking about myself, my own experience. I was born to be gifted with some super natural power. I thought they were so natural to me. When BaBa visited Taiwan in 1979, I had field walk with BaBa many times. There were no many people, say less than 10. I was with Him every day and every night after 3 days DMC. Sometimes, I was walking behind Him. Sometimes I was walking side by side with Him. Usually we talked to each other mentally. Other margiis would see we were together so quietly along a long walk. Actually we were talking. Mostly BaBa did the talking. It’s about my life and my future. Here what I wanted to say that BaBa did not say you were using occult power. It’s not allowed. I would scold you if you did it. Why? I could talk to a few saints mentally. I could do it without any effort. After BaBa left Taiwan, He gave me three powers. One was praca, One was being an interpreter. One was understanding His Darshan very well. Actually, He only gave me the praca power. He wanted to give the other two powers to another margiis. But they did not show up after DMC. So BaBa gave all to me after I asked. That’s how I could translate His Books so well and so fast. The first book came out. Marga has been selling this book for over 20 years. Any many many people were brought into Ananda Marga. Actually, this style of piling gives a very good effect to the society to propergate His thoughts. This book goes to Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and America. After this book, Taiwan’s margiis they don’t know how to propergate BaBa’s thoughts efficiently. I would say there is a few narrow minded people controlling the publication. And I’m not interested in politics.
During DMC, I applied a mantra against BaBa. BaBa was very happy with me. You know why. Because I did not want Him to touch me in P.C., I did not want Him to take away my Samskara. I told Him “Yes, it is my ego, but I don’t care. I will work out my own samsakra no matter how long, years after years, life after life. BaBa was very happy with my wish. He even changed His philosophy. He told us that margiis should take people’s samskara, include their own samskara. We should not give Him our own samskara.
Later on, when the times went by, I had a vision and saw Him suffering after suffering by taking people’s samskara. I was seeing my own father, my dear own father was willing to take away people’s samskara. He suffered a lot. Too much pain to Him, He even scolded and warned His disciples around Him if you did not take care a good of me. I would leave this body earlier. Who noticed His warning. They just wanted money. More money went to India. That’s why I said to myself that actually devotees are murders. They murdered my father. Even my father was willing to do it, but it was not the reason, devotee should make Him suffer. How could they let their guru suffer? How could they did not take a good care of themselves? How could they let Him to worry about their own life?
During teaching in Yoga class to thousands and thousands of people, I did healing to some people. I went to see Him later. BaBa did not say anything or scolded me for anything. He gave me more energy could last next 20 years. So, what, that’s 1985. At that time, I knew this was my last time to see him physically. I did sasam pronam to Him outside His room and left.
One time I astral traveled to see Him. I found out I could leave this body in this way. Later, I had the thought to leave too. But He found out. He was very angry. He locked me in this body. I tried and wanted to come out but failed. I complained to Him it’s not fair.
Last year, I saw a person was giving over 160,000 U.S.dollars to her master . She was assuming in this way her master could cure her mother’s cancer. She was crying and she was so desperated. I could understand her. When my mother was lying on the bed, she could not talk. Most of the time, she was not herself. One time she came back to her body. She knew she was leaving. She knew this was our last time meet. She would no longer to take care of me. She started crying. I picked up her thoughts. I told her it’s fine. I was ok.
Anyway, anyone has cancer, allergy, some other problems and willing to learn some cure method. I have time to tell how.
A master held up his staff, and showing it to the assembled disciples said,” You, if you call this a staff, you are committed to the name. If you call it not-a-staff, you negate the fact. Tell me, you, what do you call it?”
When you can answer it, you are not far away from enlightened.
ganesha
Monday, November 12, 2012
Healing Using Occult Power
That's my point. This is my understanding--It's occult power to you, it is not occult power to those people who is gifted person. After 40, 30 yrs of spiritual practice, we dont still talk in the beginning level.
what BaBa's method is His method and what His idea is His idea. But you can not say other idea or any other idea is wrong. Only His idea is right or His method is the only method.
There is an example: BaBa like to heal his follower's up to 90% recovery. All the doctors in the world, all want to help his patient 100% recovery.
Even so, this is my point---
Healing action itself is noble. No matter what power a person is using, either occult power or natural power. Nothing wrong with both until it cultivates "Ego issue" later on. Ego issue may happen to many cases not only happen to healing by using occult power. Look at the division inside organization case. Who care this AMPS is His. Ego and power struggle filled with people's heart on both sides. i tell you i'd rather to do more healing than solve this ego and power struggle issue in the organization. i'd rather spend more time, spend more power, more energy on healing.
Mostly, many people do not understand what occult power really is. that's why i said until a person's spiritual practice goes up to that level. How much explanation will not help.
Medicine Buddha's idea is noble. There is nothing wrong with his idea and his practice.
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